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		<title>Frontpage Express lives on</title>
		<link>http://www.geekrant.org/2005/07/11/frontpage-express-lives-on/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want a cheap (free) and cheerful web page editor for Windows? Frontpage Express doesn&#8217;t handle niceties such as CSS, but it will do basic page editing, including things the latest versions of Word and Excel make a hash of, such as tables. It also doesn&#8217;t have the nasty hooks into Frontpage servers that the old [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want a cheap (free) and cheerful web page editor for Windows? Frontpage Express doesn&#8217;t handle niceties such as CSS, but it will do basic page editing, including things the latest versions of Word and Excel make a hash of, such as tables. It also doesn&#8217;t have the nasty hooks into Frontpage servers that the old full versions of FP had.</p>
<p>Originally it was bundled with IE4 and 5. It&#8217;s not officially available for download anymore, but <a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&#038;q=frontpage+express&#038;btnG=Google+Search&#038;meta=">Google</a> can find it for you.</p>
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		<title>Excel to HTML</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#8217;t believe how stupid Excel (2002/XP) was with the table of browsers the other day. The plan was to get the numbers into Excel, copy/paste into a Frontpage table to strip back the formatting, then paste into WordPress. Nup, bloody monstrous Excel tags right the way through it, which Frontpage couldn&#8217;t override, and evidently [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe how stupid Excel (2002/XP) was with the <a href="http://www.geekrant.org/2004/10/20/browser-wars-2/">table of browsers</a> the other day.</p>
<p><strong>The plan</strong> was to get the numbers into Excel, copy/paste into a Frontpage table to strip back the formatting, then paste into WordPress.</p>
<p>Nup, bloody monstrous Excel tags right the way through it, which Frontpage couldn&#8217;t override, and evidently no easy way to strip. No combination of Paste Special would work. So for example, instead of &lt;td&gt;&lt;/td&gt; we got:</p>
<p><code>&lt;td align="right" x:num="1.15E-2" style="color: windowtext; font-size: 10.0pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; text-align: general; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap; border: medium none; padding-left: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-top: 1px"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;</code></p>
<p>I kid you not. Now, I know about <a href="http://www.glencoe.com/ps/computered/pas/article.php4?articleId=303" title="Microsoft Office Round Trips">round-trip HTML</a>, though I have my doubts that anybody uses it &#8212; firstly because it looks like crap in a web browser, and secondly because if you&#8217;ll want to edit it later, you&#8217;ll just keep an XLS copy. Besides, it&#8217;s badly implemented. The cell above was using the &#8220;Normal&#8221; style. It shouldn&#8217;t have had all the formatting crap embedded in it.</p>
<p>Word XP actually has a Save As Filtered HTML option to strip out all this crap. Excel XP doesn&#8217;t. (I haven&#8217;t checked Excel 2003 yet).</p>
<p><strong>Plan 2</strong> was to save it as HTML, load it into FrontPage and crop the HTML to paste into WordPress. Nup, trying to re-open it in FrontPage just threw it back to Excel. WTF?! Opening in UltraEdit (my preferred text editor) just revealed the same tags as above.</p>
<p>How can two Microsoft products that are part of the same suite, same version, operate so disastrously badly with one another, for something as simple as copying a table?</p>
<p><strong>Plan 3</strong>? Oh bugger it, it&#8217;s only a few lines, just write it by hand.</p>
<p>If it were more I&#8217;d go install and run that <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=209ADBEE-3FBD-482C-83B0-96FB79B74DED&#038;displaylang=en">clear The Useless Crap Out Of The HTML filter</a> thing (oh look, they could do with clearing the crap out of their URLs too), but it refuses to install unless you have Office 2000. Wonderful.</p>
<p>Next time (after swearing a bit) I&#8217;ll probably save to CSV and then do a global replace from commas to table tags.</p>
<p>Surely there must be an easier way?</p>
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